Hi everyone<br><br>First of all, it is very sad to see Max stepping out. He has been a driving force for this project, and has managed to steer things towards the right direction. A lot of good people have contributed and still are contributing to this project, which is what really keeps it alive and in motion.<br>
<br>Now for the facts... as Eugene said, people are needed who will be willing to take upon that responsibility. We need people with good administrative and programming skills in order to help the project developers and the project as a whole maintain a good pace. A leader should help with keeping people organized and not constantly bickering over everything. As Matthew said, people can't agree on everything, as that is simply not feasible. A good leader does not say "yes" to whatever idea comes up, but should mainly listen to others and help reach a consensus, keeping up project priorities and helping people realize what the project actually needs.<br>
<br>I personally do not want to see groups who support developer A or developer B for the position of a project co-lead. This isn't something to be taken lightly, and this is certainly not a reason to start fighting over. Eugene said that two people are needed to help the project stay focused and organized, and devote themselves to this. So my question is: who is up to this task? Who wants to really help this project and be one of its driving forces? We really need people who can be trusted, have been long enough on this project and have shown good faith in helping it.<br>
<br>Some names have come on the table. So far, we've seen the names of Willem, Johannes and me. I believe that all are excellent choices. I can't speak for myself, but I hope I have proved time and again that I really care for this project and want to help. I thank everyone who has shown faith in me, and I would like to say that I can give as much as I can to help this project in every way I can, as a developer and as a helping hand with managerial issues. Titles are not the big issue here. I hope that whoever takes up on this position will do his best to help people stay united, help Eugene give the project a driving force and a purpose and keep up the spirit, direction and successful organization that Max always gave to this project and that Eugene still keeps on doing (and we thank him for that).<br>
<br>Regards<br>Filippos<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Matthew Hoops <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:clone2727@gmail.com">clone2727@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<p>I completely disagree with that reasoning. I feel that Johannes' comments are exactly what we need in a leader. Someone who is willing to disagree and not just go along with everything.</p>
<p>-Matt</p><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 22, 2011 12:50 PM, "Vladimir Menshakov" <<a href="mailto:whoozle@yandex.ru" target="_blank">whoozle@yandex.ru</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Willem seems like a good candidate for me.<br>
> As of Johannson, no offense, but I don't think he fits for this position. I usually don't vote against something, but I cannot ignore it for now. <br>> I think his comments(both other's work and -devel) are mostly too picky for open source people. He's very skillful, but people easily got offended of negative feedback. I think this is true for all recent happenings.<br>
> Such behavior is not constructive and I'm pretty sure will cause further conflicts between project's people.<br>> We were more friendlier before, for sure. <br>> Sorry.<br>> <br>> <br>> 22.06.2011, 18:30, "Florian Kagerer" <<a href="mailto:athrxx@users.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">athrxx@users.sourceforge.net</a>>:<br>
>> I completely agree with Sven and Matt.<br>>><br>>> Johannes and Willem would make excellent candidates (involved in ScummVM far<br>>> beyond the scope of their own engine(s), interested in other devs' code and<br>
>> willing<br>>> to comment on it, etc.).<br>>><br>>> Since Eugene said that he is willing to have 2 additional co-leads (which<br>>> also was the case before<br>>> the retirement of ender) this might really be considered for these two,<br>
>> since it would reduce the workload for each of them.<br>>><br>>> Florian<br>>><br>>> Von: Matthew Hoops [mailto:<a href="mailto:clone2727@gmail.com" target="_blank">clone2727@gmail.com</a>]<br>
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Juni 2011 14:35<br>
>> An: Sven Hesse<br>>> Cc: <a href="mailto:scummvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">scummvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br>>> Betreff: Re: [Scummvm-devel] Leadership. Open position(s)<br>
>><br>>> I agree with Sven. Max was a great leader and it really upsets and<br>
>> distresses me to see him leave. I truly wish he was staying onboard.<br>>> In my mind, I can only see Johannes or Willem stepping up as a project lead<br>>> (though neither could ever "replace" Max).<br>
>> -Matt<br>>> On Jun 22, 2011 8:24 AM, "Sven Hesse" <<a href="mailto:drmccoy@users.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">drmccoy@users.sourceforge.net</a>>; wrote:<br>>><br>>>> On 2011-06-22 15:22:13 +0400, Vladimir Menshakov wrote:<br>
>>>> I think Filippos and/or Arnaud are both very good candidates to this<br>>><br>>> position. Any thoughts?<br>>><br>>>> Frankly, I don't see that /at all/.<br>>>><br>
>>> Don't take it the wrong way guys, but you both lack the drive and<br>>>> perseverance to relentlessly pester and prod people, to feel<br>>>> passionate about the quality of code brought in by other people, to<br>
>>> refactor the common and glue code again and again.<br>>>><br>>>> Which is why I'm so damn sad at Fingolfin's stepping down. That he<br>>>> felt so passionate about ScummVM as a whole was what made him, to my<br>
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