[Scummvm-devel] Including README translations
Simon Sawatzki
SimSaw at gmx.de
Sat Jun 25 14:13:04 CEST 2011
Hi,
> What version of Windows are you using? The README works fine with Notepad
> for me, both with Windows 7 and Windows XP.
> It worked correctly for fuzzie with Windows 2000.
I meant one of the translated readmes (so either Liesmich.txt or LisezMoi.txt). When I open them as I get them in raw from git from the doc folder, then I get the wrong characters. Should you have been aware that I am not talking about these documents, that's it's really strange that you don't get this mistake. I for my part first have to add the three bytes EF BB BF via hex editor to make it work.
> It still is compatible, that was a mistake (though it isn't tested if it
> still runs under Win9x by any developer).
I just said it worked some days ago. Now I tested with the recent development version created by buildbot and it doesn't work anymore, so the change must have been quite recent.
> Honestly though, who uses Windows 9x nowadays? It's a dead OS, Windows 98
> was released more than 13 years ago and ME...
> well... ME was a nightmare (released more than 11 years ago). Perhaps
> it's time to change? :)
Well, I don't fully agree with Max in some points, but in his good-bye email he said some very wise points one of which is: Don't say "Why do you care?"
For me personally, it is an advantage to support as many OS'es as possible. Some people suggested in the past even to add support for DOS (personally, I'd be happy if ScummVM ran one day with MS-DOS 1.0 although I never got a that old version :) ). Moreover, the same thing could be said to any other OS: "Oh come on, you are using Linux? It's oudated, use Windows instead!" (said the greedy manager of a certain company)
In a nutshell: I think it's not a disadvantage to support as many platforms as possible - even if it is a very old one.
Filippos, for your inormation: I'm using Windows XP and Vista mainly, so you don't need to say it's time to change. I just happen sometimes to use older OS'es for retro reasons. I would be glad if we could keep these OS'es support so that I can use ScummVM when using such a retro system.
> > Anyway, I don't know what to do about the encoding problem for these
> old
> > systems other than what I suggested which would make it easiest to
> convert
> > it to ANSI for all Windows systems.
> >
>
> Why? These people can just use an editor that supports Unicode files.
> e.g. Notepad++ is free, its older versions still run under 98 and it does
> support Unicode files.
First, as far as I know, the translated readme files are in UTF-8 encoding (without header). I don't know if Notepad++ supports UTF-8 too. Secondly, I don't want to give users the burden to install extra software to use ScummVM. If we start that, imagine you need to install seven other programmes as a ScummVM newbie before you can run ScummVM for the first time. Second, it's harder to get internet access on these systems. And transfering data may also be harder (especially on Win 95 as there was no USB support if I remember correctly). Third, Windows 95 and higher already do have editors and if converted to ANSI, there is no problem. And converting can be done automatically via script, so I don't see big problems and reasons to pass on the problem to the user.
Kind regards
Simon
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