[Scummvm-tracker] [ScummVM :: Bugs] #16250: Syberia I Mac Version

Wed Oct 1 17:17:15 UTC 2025

#16250: Syberia I Mac Version
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Reporter:  webangel3              |       Owner:  (none)
    Type:  defect                 |      Status:  new
Priority:  normal                 |   Component:  Engine: Tetraedge
 Version:                         |  Resolution:
Keywords:  Syberia I Mac Version  |        Game:  Syberia 1
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Comment (by webangel3):

 Hi.
 - I´m using ScummVM 3.0.0git from the repo
 - OS is Win 11 with a nVidia GTX
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 User picked target 'syberia-mac' (engine ID 'tetraedge', game ID
 'syberia')...
 Running Syberia (Macintosh)
 MacOS/Syberia: 6951fb8f71fe06f34684564625f73cd8, 10640592 bytes.
 WARNING: TODO: TeCore::create: Finish implementing me.!
 TeLuaContext::global: Request for nil global firstWarpPath
 Application::loadOptions options.xml
 mainWindowSizeChanged: defaulting to SD.
 mouse clicked button 'splash' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'menu' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'continueGameButton' (from leftup)
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEMD
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 Game::initWarp(ValReceptionInn, 10000, false)
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 scenes/ValReceptionInn/10000/Marker10000.lua
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000_Comptoir
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000_Valise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10030_Chaise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10030_Momo
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10050
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10060-0
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10060-1
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10070_Valise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10070_vers10080
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10090
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Engrenage01
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Engrenage02
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : MaskPFNode_10050
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : depliant_auberge
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : engrenageA
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : engrenageB
 WARNING: TODO: Handle _g_bWidescreen!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: TODO: Handle _g_bWidescreen!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: TODO: Handle _g_bWidescreen!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Fleche_00.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 menus/Markers/Fleche_00.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Fleche_225.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 menus/Markers/Fleche_225.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Fleche_90.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 menus/Markers/Fleche_90.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Main.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Main.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Zoom.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Zoom.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Action.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Action.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Parler.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Parler.animcached
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEMD
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnSelectedObject" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonDown" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonDown" does not exist
 Game::onMouseClick: Click near mesh Clic_10000_Sonnette
 mouse clicked button 'OBJET_SONETTE' (from leftup)
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 Game::initWarp(ValReceptionInn, 10010, false)
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 scenes/ValReceptionInn/10010/Marker10010.lua
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 scenes/ValReceptionInn/10010/lights.xml
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000_Comptoir
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000_Valise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10030_Chaise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10030_Momo
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10050
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10060-0
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10060-1
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10070_Valise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10070_vers10080
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10090
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Engrenage01
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Engrenage02
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : MaskPFNode_10050
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : depliant_auberge
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : engrenageA
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : engrenageB
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: TODO: Handle _g_bWidescreen!
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Main.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Main.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Action.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Action.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Action.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Action.animcached
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find menus/Markers/Fleche_180.anim
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 menus/Markers/Fleche_180.animcached
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnSelectedObject" does not exist
 WARNING: Game::playRandomSound: can't find sound list
 Validilene_ReceptionIn!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonDown" does not exist
 Game::onMouseClick: Click near mesh Clic_10010_CleUni
 Large position move Kate Vec3f(-10.00 85.31 -298.00) -> Vec3f(20.00 85.31
 -294.00)
 mouse clicked button 'CLE_AUTO' (from leftup)
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 Updated score: 10
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnFreeSoundFinished" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 mouse clicked button 'inventoryButton' (from leftup)
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 mouse clicked button 'object' (from leftup)
 Large position move Kate Vec3f(0.09 85.31 -298.79) -> Vec3f(20.00 85.31
 -294.00)
 Large position move Kate Vec3f(12.38 85.30 -298.78) -> Vec3f(20.00 85.31
 -294.00)
 mouse clicked button 'quitBackground' (from leftup)
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnSelectedObject" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonDown" does not exist
 Game::onMouseClick: Click near mesh Clic_10010_Automate
 Large position move Kate Vec3f(13.37 85.30 -298.91) -> Vec3f(20.00 85.31
 -294.00)
 mouse clicked button 'ZONE_POSE_CLE' (from leftup)
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [SetVisibleButtonZoomed] No "DeZoomedButton" in this scene
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [SetVisibleButtonZoomed] No "DeZoomedButton" in this scene
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnFreeSoundFinished" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonDown" does not exist
 Game::onMouseClick: Click near mesh Clic_10010_Boutton
 mouse clicked button 'BOUTON' (from leftup)
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnButtonUp" does not exist
 [SetVisibleButtonZoomed] No "DeZoomedButton" in this scene
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnFreeSoundFinished" does not exist
 [SetVisibleButtonZoomed] No "DeZoomedButton" in this scene
 Game::initWarp(ValReceptionInn, 10020, false)
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 scenes/ValReceptionInn/10020/Int10020.lua
 TeCore::findFile Searched but didn't find
 scenes/ValReceptionInn/10020/Marker10020.lua
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000_Comptoir
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10000_Valise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10030_Chaise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10030_Momo
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10050
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10060-0
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10060-1
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10070_Valise
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10070_vers10080
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Croque10090
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Engrenage01
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : Engrenage02
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : MaskPFNode_10050
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : depliant_auberge
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : engrenageA
 [InGameScene::load] Unknown type of object named : engrenageB
 WARNING: [HideBillboard] Billboard not found A10000-2-00.png!
 Large position move Kate Vec3f(19.77 85.30 -294.36) -> Vec3f(-7.00 85.31
 -298.00)
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEMD
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEMD
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 loadAndCheckFourCC: Look for TEZ0, got TEAN
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnSelectedObject" does not exist
 [TeLuaThread::Execute1] Function: "OnFreeSoundFinished" does not exist
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: [TeTextBase2::build()] Warning : font missing!
 WARNING: Couldn't save file H:\ScummVM\Saved games\syberia-mac.000!
 Application::saveOptions options.xml
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)
 mouse clicked button 'lockCursorFromActionButton' (from leftup)

 - I thought I stuck on the second logo screen, but now I come to the lobby
 and get "stucked" there

 - same problem in Syberia 2
 - Thanks!
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Ticket URL: <https://bugs.scummvm.org/ticket/16250#comment:3>
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